Thousands to Faulconer: sanctuary city now

Former L.A. mayor among protesters warning SD mayor of a "soft stance"

"I'm just an immigrant who fell in love with America," said Imam Taha Hassane of the Islamic Center of San Diego.
  • "I'm just an immigrant who fell in love with America," said Imam Taha Hassane of the Islamic Center of San Diego.

Thousands of San Diegans took to the streets downtown on Saturday (February 18), calling on mayor Kevin Faulconer to establish San Diego as a sanctuary city and specifically offer support for Senate Bill 54, a proposal in the statehouse that would block state and local resources from being used to cooperate with federal immigration officials.

The crowd was estimated at between 4000 and 10,000.

The crowd was estimated at between 4000 and 10,000.

"We are promising that if Mayor Faulconer takes a soft stance on protecting the hard-working immigrants and refugees that live in his own city, he will have no political future in San Diego or California," reads an excerpt from the organizers' Facebook page.

"Today we say no to a ban, yes to building bridges, no to building walls," former Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa told a crowd gathered in front of the county administration building. "We come as Americans in every hue from every country as one in the values we believe in. Not in my America!"

Imam Taha Hassane of the Islamic Center of San Diego, protesting a presidential travel ban against seven predominantly Muslim countries that has successfully been challenged in court, said that "Muslims have been here since the beginning of this nation."

"My story is simple," Hassane said. "I'm just an immigrant who fell in love with America."

The march ended in front of federal buildings downtown.

The march ended in front of federal buildings downtown.

The crowd, which rally leaders said numbered between 5000 to 10,000 (police estimated participation closer to 4000), marched down Harbor Drive and up Broadway, waving signs and shouting chants such as, "Hey Trump, hey Pence, we'll tear down your fence!" The march ended in front of federal buildings downtown, where speeches continued as the crowd began to dwindle in the early afternoon.

Rally organizer Indivisible San Diego — connected to a larger movement likened by supporters to Tea Party activists and described by Trump press secretary Sean Spicer as "a very paid, Astroturf-type movement" — says they plan to continue agitating to oppose the policies of the new administration.

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"Muslims have been here since the beginning of this nation."

They were not terrorizing people as much as today. And it doesn't secure their opportunity to continue to migrate here.

Of course tourists would rather come to a sanctuary city. Because a sanctuary city has restaurants. The restaurant industry is going to suffer without immigrants. Prices are going to go through the roof. restaurants will close. Agriculture is going to suffer too. There will not be enough workers. food will be expensive and in short supply. House cleaning services will be more expensive. The tech industry says we need to attract the best and the brightest from around the world. Most jobs being filled by immigrants are not jobs that would otherwise go to citizens. Just like our grandparents people come here for the promise of a better life. They have citizen children here. It's cruel to break families up.

If San Diego uses it's police force to help ICE it can no longer effectively police Hispanic communities because the trust has been broken. That is what we are trying to tell Faulkner.

What? Your comments are all over the place. What is your point?

Her point was obvious: Asking the Mayor to establish San Diego as a sanctuary city.

NO immigrants need leave UNLESS illegal. In San Diego less than 9% of Restaurant employees are estimated ILLEGAL by ICE and our local border patrol. So NO major economic impact with their removal as you suggest. We have almost 11% unemployment in California. 17% College Grad unemployment. And somehow you think those 9% jobs would go unfilled? Hispanic communities do NOT support ILLEGAL immigration so you are delusional. THAT is FACT. Come here LEGALLY and BE AMERICAN..... nothing less will suffice. THEN you will be welcome with open arms.... embraced as Americans as long as you embrace BEING an American. NOT a Hispanic American or a Muslim American.... an American. As Ben Franklin wrote in his Constitution support editorial papers. Accept it and so will we. THAT is what makes America GREAT. ALL being legal AMERICANS...... and nothing else.

Your "11% unemployment" figure is false. According to the BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics) current population survey (CPS), the unemployment rate for California fell 0.1 percentage points in December 2016 to 5.2%.

I didn't bother to look, but I would say that you are using the U3 rate. My guess is that the above comment was referring to the U6 rate, which while still not the true rate, is still much more accurate than the U3 figure.

My guess is that the "11% unemployment" figure is a Trump rating, i.e., it's "alternative facts." In the Trump Universe, accuracy and established facts backed up with evidence don't matter much.

I doubt that is the case. As I said, I have not looked at the month over month figures for California for December, but I can tell you that for the year, the over all U6 rate in California was 11.3% while the U3 rate was 5.4 That would tell me that a U6 rate for December only in the 11% range would be expected. U6 is an alternative measurement, as are rates U1-U5, but I would not consider it one of the "alternative facts" in the the Trump Universe, or anywhere else for that matter.

"The current U6 unemployment rate as of January 2017 is 9.40." --www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

I would only point out that your initial comment above from 8:00 am, the one I replied to, referenced the December rate for California, not the January rate the the US as a whole:

https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm

FYI. In case you were not aware, the BLS uses a four quarter moving-average basis for their estimates so there is a lag time that might prevent a fully accurate reflection of the labor situation when viewd as a monthly basis. In this case, the data was released on January 24th, for the month of December and the monthly release for the state data for January is not until March 13th, meaning there will be an update to the January reporting. Then at the end of April, the next quarterly report, covering the four quarters ending in March 2017 will be issued. Personally, I prefer to use the data straight from the BLS. All of the info is there and broken out for easy reference. I subscribe to their online calendar so that I can always know what is coming out when.

I'm NOT a regular reader of the BLS figures; in fact I never go there. But it showed up when I Googled. I have better things to do with my time than follow the BLS like clockwork. I find it extremely boring. And it has nothing to do with my ongoing reporting.

I AM a regular reader of the BLS figures; I spend probably 1/4 hour or so a month looking at it. I would point out though, that you were the one to initiate the response to the unemployment figures posted by someone else. I simply provided some additional information and pointed out that you were mixing your information between reporting periods. Sort of a public service, if you will. I rarely comment here any more because, as you so eloquently put it, I have better things to do with my time. Sometimes though, it's just fun to drop in and rattle someone's cage.

Yes, I could see you were mostly interested in cage-rattling. Now run along and play elsewhere, please.

The business community wants immigration legal and illegal. Immigrants are willing to work for less, are afraid of authority, are easily intimidated and are ignorant of labor laws. Employers want to keep the labor pool large because it keeps labor costs down. Employers whine about the minimum wage but in reality they use the minimum wage as a ceiling not a floor. As immigrants assimilate into the mainstream they become a threat to the low wage low/no benefit employers who rely on a constant supply of immigrants to replace the immigrants that preceded them and are now wanting decent pay and benefits and full time employment.

Despite the warnings from Tony Villar, oops, Antonio Villaraigosa, I'm not sure that Kev-boy is in such danger. In fact, the folks who elected him probably have little enthusiasm for the lawsuit and actions in the state legislature. Of course, the dynamic of getting elected to statewide office such as the governorship are much different than here in SD. If Kev heads off in a direction of trying to out-Democrat the Democrats, he will burn his bridges to his base, likely without drawing much enthusiasm from the opposition party voters.

Sometimes ya' just cannot win. This may be one of the times that a guy like Faulconer just cannot talk his way out of a controversy, even if he uses both sides of his mouth. Hey, I have a better idea: instead of getting into this fight, why doesn't he start keeping his campaign promises, start repairing the streets, fixing the water mains, and cleaning up the sewage system? If he does the things he promised, maybe his popularity will soar, and he'll be able to point to real accomplishment if/when he seeks higher office.

You've got a good point there. Jerry Brown got back into the Gov's chair, after doing a decent job as Oakland's mayor. But his competition (Meg Whitman) wasn't that tough, and she tried to buy her way in with giant bags of her own money. The voters didn't care for that.

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