Who's investigating Filner? It's who's NOT investigating him

Now Allred wants attorney general, city attorney to pile on

The Bangladesh Rural Advancement Committee is investigating San Diego Mayor Robert Filner. Well, not really, but it might as well be.

In today's (Aug. 6) U-T, Los Angeles sexual harassment attorney Gloria Allred, who is representing a former Filner staffer, called on City Attorney Jan Goldsmith, a Filner hater, to investigate an alleged incident with an ex-Marine female.

The day before, Allred and her client, Irene McCormack Jackson, met with the San Diego County Sheriff's Department and representatives of the state attorney general. The Los Angeles Times speculated that the A.G. might use a rare statute to accuse Filner of egregious misconduct in office.

The Reader's Matt Potter this morning pointed out the multifarious connections of Sheriff Bill Gore with the people trying to force Filner to resign. John Lynch, chief executive of the U-T -- gunning for Filner as soon as he considered running for the office -- gave money to Gore. So did hotel barons and others, including Linden Blue, whose longtime companion was one of the women who charged the mayor with untoward behavior.

Then there is the alleged investigation by the U.S. Attorney's office. Filner or an aide obviously erred by letting Sunroad give a donation to unrelated nonprofits to get approval for a development project.

But the second so-called offense is laughable. Another developer got what it wanted but donated to a nonprofit that WAS related to the project in question. In any case, both of these are definitely civil matters -- not criminal ones.

But that distinction makes no difference when both private individuals and the public sector are piling on, manipulating the local mainstream media.

If even half the complaints of women can be believed, Filner's behavior is reprehensible. But under U.S. law and tradition, he is entitled to due process. He is being hounded out of office by a cabal that lost the election.

Can Allred poison any jury pool by taking her case to government agencies and trotting out other alleged victims? Legally, perhaps she can -- but ethically?

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Ronne Froman, the "longtime companion" and ex-Navy Admiral of drone-maker Linden Blue is now his spouse, Don. Sigh. How does it go? "Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments...." Some matches are made in the military-industrial complex.

monaghan: I was sent something suggesting that the two were now married, but it wasn't definitive, so I used Matt's designation of longtime companion. Best, Don Bauder

Now I've read to the bottom. "Ethically?" What's that? Never been a problem in America's Finest City before; shouldn't be a problem now.

monaghan: Good points. Ethics have never been a problem in San Diego, particularly when the Big Money wants something built with OPM (Other People's Money) -- the taxpayers' money. San Diegans have to decide whether the corporate welfare crowd spending taxpayers' billions to build structures that should be financed with private capital is worse than Filner's very obvious oafish and stupid behavior. But the decision won't be made in a rational environment, alas. Best, Don Bauder

If there's one good thing about all this, personally speaking of course, it is the wonderful phrase I learned on this blog, "America's Finest Plantation." Perhaps not worth the destruction of our mayor, but so far is the only good take-away for me.

Yankeedoodle: Yes, America's Finest Plantation is an apt description. I also like Mayberry. Best, Don Bauder

Yankeedoodle: The very intelligent person who describes San Diego as Mayberry was making the comment in a completely different context. It was said long before the Filner sex scandal arose. Best, Don Bauder

A brother of mine and I have long referred to it as Duckburg. One would need to have been a Disney aficionado to appreciate the comparison, however.

Duhbya: Well, if you are searching for another Disney analogy, you would certainly not call it SnowWhiteville. Best, Don Bauder

Fantasyland? Mickeymouseville? Goofytown?

None

by Duhbya

Duhbya: I like Goofytown the best. The public doesn't comprehend how its pocket is being picked, but it falls for a concocted and orchestrated sex scandal designed to put the corporate overlords, who lost the election, back in the saddle. Best, Don Bauder

".....put the corporate overlords, who lost the election, back in the saddle." While they saddle the citizenry with even more grief and debt.

PROVE the "concocted and orchestrated sex scandal" or please stop saying that. Anyone can SAY anything, Don. But repetition doesn't make it accurate.

In this age of female empowerment, where did Bob Filner find all these timid women?

Oh, let me guess: Most of them claim to have been harassed before Filner became Mayor, most of them were never his subordinates, most of them are Republicans. Bob’s political enemies seem to be crawling out of the woodwork to take him down. The claims of “strong, competent women” coming forward seems questionable. I wouldn’t want to trust my business affairs to such “STRONG” women. Where were they all this time, before whining to Donna Frye? I’m disappointed, Donna. Apparently, the only thing strong thing about these women is you.

Asking a woman, who is not a subordinate, for a date and leaving when she refused, has now become harassment? Since when?

A headlock is harassment? No – that’s battery and she should have reported it to the police immediately.

A one-time pinch or hug for a non-subordinate is harassment? Better stay out of Europe, Africa, Asia, Central and South America.

We can sympathize with an employee who never came forward due to fears for her much-needed job. Surely, some woman, somewhere, got back into her harasser’s face and put him down. This is, after all, the age of female empowerment. Why haven’t any of these women come forward? Aren’t there any? Back in the dark ages when female harassment was common and accepted, many of us never accepted that behavior without giving it back in spades.

This situation quickly developed the stench of a witch-hunt, and makes me suspicious that it is all contrived to damage a Mayor who is moving excess funds from the downtown establishment, and into the rest of San Diego.

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deebeefc: The women who came forward following McCormack Jackson's suit have not thus far been City employees. So these were not job-related alleged sexual harassment matters. You ask the right question: if Filner was such a danger to the feminine gender, why didn't these women come forward earlier? The answer is that this is clearly a pre-planned rollout, and one objective is to poison any jury in the case against him. Another motivation is to help the downtown corporate welfare crowd. Many of these accusers are tied to that element. Best, Don Bauder

Who is paying Allred's retainer? She keeps asking for a resignation that would only make it more difficult for Filner to pay her clients. Who gives Jackson the deep pockets? Why is the political vendetta the central relief sought? Is this being financed by the City's money, to be paid in the form of a fraudulent tort settlement to a worthless claim?

Psycholizard: I'm told that at some point we can find out who is financing the recall signature-gathering but it will be difficult to find who is paying Allred's bills. Best, Don Bauder

I wonder who the first woman will be to say that "he undressed me with his eyes." That is about as ridiculous as some of these other claims.

judijudi0: I am 77 years old and have been guilty of that criminal offense for about 65 years. Best, Don Bauder

Who among us, all genders included, has not?

Yankeedoodle: Yet she or he who is without sin cast the first stone. Best, Don Bauder

Thank you for a being a Lone Voice among the crying Super Egos.....Thanks for asking the simple questions that make up the Biggest Story...The more women that come forward, the more I can see that perhaps Bob is being Bob. These women tell all the same story. I really think that as these stories play out the more exposed the City and Operatives will be casted in a different Light perhaps have the Voting Public might have cause for pause before we condem Bob Filner and look for who? to be the next Major.....Perhaps one of those who oppose him for control..THERE IS A BIG, BIG Story that is going come out. "Oh what tangle web we weave, when first we practice to deceive... Perhaps the reason that so many want Bob Filner to resign because if he doesn't resign....More and more questions will be needed to be answered as to why a fairly elected Mayor is trying to be drummed out of office by someone by the name of Irene McCormick Jackson and not have "Due Process" for the person we wanted as Mayor. I respect Ms. McCormick, who once worked for the Doug's UT, and left a $175,000 job at the Port to go to work for the A''hole" (AKA Filner....WHY for $125,000?).

Iamlindawyatt: You ask good questions, and I believe that the real story is how this lynching was planned, by whom, and how it was financed. A couple of points: McCormack Jackson did not work for the U-T when Manchester owned it. Also, her leaving a $175,000 job to take one for $125,000 may make sense when the facts come out, if they do. Best, Don Bauder

How does ex-Mayor Sanders warrant a private briefing from Sheriff Gore? How much was he told about the ongoing investigation? Is he the one stage managing the slow release of the accusers? Somebody certainly is.

Hardcover: Good question. How did Sanders get the private briefing from Gore and did the U-T reporter ask about that? I don't think Sanders is intelligent enough to be orchestrating this one. It's happening at a higher and wealthier level. Best, Don Bauder

Yankeedoodle: Sanders has always been a puppet. Best, Don Bauder

Matt someone left me this comment on my blog about the guy bankrolling the recal effort. You guys should for sure dig into this connection. Its key. Thanks!!!

Interesting. On 7/6/13, I waited in line to speak with Bob Filner (at his once-a-month forum to speak directly with him) for a couple hours. NEXT to me in line was Michael Pallamary, Land Use Consultant, and current recall head fellow. We visited on and off about his reason for being there (representing LA Developer Kilroy Realty's 23 acre Carmel Valley project) to voice his chagrin/disappointment with Filner's position. Per article in today's UT, "Earlier this year, Filner intervened at a community planning meeting to oppose a 23-acre project in Carmel Valley, saying the 2.1 million-sqare-foot, mixed use project was far bigger that what the neighborhood wanted. Los Angeles developer Kilroy Realty subsequently downsized the One Paseo complex by one-third and is awaiting approval for City Hall." The above item, the UT ownership (Papa Manchester, John Lynch) and other 'connections' are very, very much in play......what media in SD will have the courage to connect the dots?

historymatters: You have begun the connecting of the dots, and you have printed it in the Reader, which is the only publication trying to dig into the money and strategy behind the witch burning. Certainly, the U-T top management is in on it. And you can bet that real estate developers are. Every San Diegan should ask himself/herself: should real estate developers continue to run San Diego? And can you believe anything you read in the U-T? Best, Don Bauder

Salem witch trials would be more like it. I can't believe the number showing up in hopes of seeing a good burning at the stake. And these women; never offended enough to say anything when it happened, but now, so deeply offended; so terribly damaged they may never recover. It's a good thing someone pointed out to them how offended they are, otherwise they might have missed it. They seem to be waiting in the wings for their cue from the suddenly puritan political hopefuls.

I wish every woman who has ever had a guy make a pass, try for a kiss, or maybe give them a slightly too tender a squeeze, would come forward. I wonder how many women there would be if every one who can recall a time when some guy might have gone a little too far, would come forward and be counted.

This is not to excuse the mayor. Oh, he's a horndog alright. There's no doubt about that. He had better learn his lessons and learn them good during this rehab. But no one has said he's a crook. No one is pointing to any clear and indisputable violations of law. In fact, what seems to be emerging as a surprise in spite of all the heat and noise, is that what few policies Filner is responsible for, are working out quite well. The feedback on the implementation of his counter proposal for Balboa Park has been very good. Everyone seems to be happy that the Cabrillo Bridge did not have to be bastardized in order to alleviate a traffic and parking problem. Of course, the Prado restaurant reneged on the original agreement and is back to having their customers provided with valet parking, spoiling what was for a very short time an ideal traffic pattern. No one seems sure what to do with all the open space, but Filner's idea did accomplish the goal and did it without spending millions of dollars. I just hope he survives this mess and is able to implement some of his other ideas that will benefit all the citizens of San Diego. Otherwise we get back to the pigs at the trough and the neighborhoods crumbling.

JavaJoe25: What we can hope for is that the public recoils in disgust from this piling-on. Isn't the U.S. Attorney, Attorney General, City Attorney, Sheriff's office, all manner of downtown self-aggrandizers, and hot-breathing but hardly cool-thinking journalists enough? But a sex scandal sells. The public understands it. It doesn't understand that its pockets are being picked by the moneybags financing the scandal. Best, Don Bauder

I am just listening to a repeat of KPBS' Midday Edition with mellifluous-voiced Maureen Kavanaugh and earnest Mark Sauer who had to fill air space with breathlessly earnest anti-Filner blather while waiting for the second live Gloria Allred news conference which never materialized in time. Oh lo siento!

The longer this charade goes on, the longer the line of damaged damsels, the more likely that San Diegans will question this heavy-handed attempt to discredit our flawed and repentant Mayor. To date Filner has done an excellent job of thwarting schemes of the corporate masters -- bankers and developers like "Papa" Doug Manchester who scandalously misuses his daily newspaper to promote his own interests and destroy anyone who gets in his way.I am confident San Diegans will come to realize they are being sold a bill of goods and that Mayor Filner, reformed and renewed after this trial by fire, can serve us very well.

monaghan: You have touched on an important question that all should ponder. Which is worse: a rich real estate developer buying a newspaper and using it to propagandize for corporate welfare schemes that will line his own pocket, or a politician making oafish, untoward remarks to mature, successful females over a long career? Best, Don Bauder

Yankeedoodle: Another question: do the media barons hurling the most stones have clean hands? Best, Don Bauder

Monaghan, you get so much so right in so few words.

KPBS has increasingly become a tool of the power structure and an embarrassment to "Public" Television and Radio (inept, amateurish local productions). Oh, they sprinkle their local productions with enough truth and "liberal" talk and innuendo to keep "the left" content in their foggy sentimentalism, but that is about all they're good at. Fat chance they will get my car, speaking of amateurish, inept productions. Gag me with a spoon.

U. S. Grant was flawed too--he drank! "Find out what he drinks and send a case to all my generals," said Lincoln.

Twister: KPBS was a tool of the power structure as long as I can remember. Its building has the name Copley on it. That media family was a huge donor. There was a show called Editors' Roundtable that was merely a mouthpiece for the establishment. It was an embarrassment to journalism and to intelligent people in the city. The show may still be on. Best, Don Bauder

The show you're talking about realized the error of its ways and began featuring alternative voices (including some from the alternative press) about 10 years ago. There was quite a fuss about this at the time via Mr. Kittle.

Do keep up, Don.

Randy: I do remember Kittle howling that somebody from one of the non-kept papers was being on the show. That was more than 10 years ago. Best, Don Bauder

Bob Filner might become an international media star. Few knew his name two months ago, cameras will follow him now wherever he goes. Monster or hero, Richard iii or Henry V, he is now center stage, if he gets his act together, he will have a megaphone louder than all the local media combined. People go to the horror show to see the monster, but if they look at this monster long enough, they will see a decent human being, whose principal offense is acting like a man, which sometimes means acting stupidly. What he is accused of is so human, so natural. We were made to touch and be touched. He was clumsy but meant no harm.

His attackers intend to do him cold hearted evil. I don't think any of them consider the possibility that the media mob they gathered for this lynching might see through their plot and turn on them. If we get the word out, this can happen.

And the East Coast media continually lambasts Filner in trite fashion, on a daily basis. Think Morning Joe, Foxy, Matthews, nightly newscasts, etc. It appears that when they hear the words "San Diego" they immediately lock in on sun, fun, sand, surf, palm trees, and so on, blind to the actual machinations of this long-fraudulent city government. I'm trying to come up with an effective method for getting (some of) them to at least take at look at the underlying issues. Open to suggestions.

Duhbya: It has been my observation that it is hard enough to see through propaganda in your own state or city, but even more difficult from a distance. Certainly, as you imply, it should be easier for journalists. If they have been trained, it should be second-nature. I took a journalism class in high school, and remember a whole chapter in the book devoted to seeing through tricks, known to philosophy students as fallacies. Maybe you could copy a list of those and send them around to remind these reporters of their training.

Well said, and thanks for the thought. I will admit to having some difficulty in viewing many of these talking heads as reporters, though.

Duhbya: I have been one of those talking heads, but I can't argue the point. Best, Don Bauder

The ones I refer to are either told what to say and/or present but one view of any given subject, quite unlike you.

Yankeedoodle: In J-school, students are told that their mission will be to disseminate the truth. Once they get into the field, they realize that their mission is to disseminate interpretations that blend with those of the owner signing their paychecks. Best, Don Bauder

Yankeedoodle: Oh yes, the illogical leaps are ubiquitous in this environment of hate and hysteria. Example: those who believe in due process, and can recognize a political con game, and know when the media are being manipulated, are automatically called male chauvinist pigs and sexist. Best, Don Bauder

Or, if female, they are called deluded, to say the least.

Duhbya: If the Filner lynching becomes a vehicle for national and local media to learn how San Diego's downtown corporate welfare crowd has been picking the citizenry's pocket, then it all may have been worth it. Best, Don Bauder

Psycholizard: The odds are against the truth triumphing, as they always are in a sex scandal. But anything is possible. Best, Don Bauder

The truth is a patient enemy, and steadfast friend.

Psycholizard: Ain't that the truth! Best, Don Bauder

As reported:

Sanders statements about possible law enforcement action against Filner came Monday on U-T TV’s Roger Hedgecock Show.

“It’s sexual assault in cases,” Sanders said. “If you touch somebody else in an unwanted place in an unwanted way, that’s not harassment, that’s assault. It’s a crime.”

So the #1 question is, why hasn't Filner been arrested if what Sanders said is true?

Anon92107: First, one has to determine if Sanders is a reliable source. Second, you have to determine if the accusers who have come forward were telling the truth. And remember: under our system of government, the accused has a right to due process. So due process could be a long process. Best, Don Bauder

Filner has been careful to avoid the unwanted place and unwanted way, his approach almost seems lawyerly. If they tried arrest on pure bunk it could backfire.

Psycholizard: Yes, his arrest SHOULD backfire. But remember, this is a city in which government bodies -- such as the ones we are discussing on this blog -- sleep with the downtown overlords. This goes for the judiciary and the mainstream media, too. Best, Don Bauder

"Even a fish wouldn't get into trouble if it kept it's mouth shut." --Cicero, if I recall correctly.

Filner is doing a pretty good job of simply refusing to take the bait. Sometimes the best "strategy" is no strategy.

Keep on keepin' on, Bob.

Twister: However, some seagoing creatures have to keep their mouths open because they feed on krill. Best, Don Bauder

Duhbya: Thou shalt not krill -- incumbent mayors excepted. Best, Don Bauder

Speaking of mayors, I'm considering filing a combined harassment by sexual innuendo / loss of revenue complaint (or possible class-action suit) on behalf of the citizens of San Diego against ex-mayor Roger for his refusal to either change or drop his last name while he represented America's Finest City. Talk about laughing stock.

reply to duhbya. actually, he actually did try to change his name at one point. Unfortunately, Ron Jeremy threatened to sue him, so it never happened. As an interesting side note, foe some odd reason, I seem to recall that at one point in time, I believe in in England, the word roger had a couple of different meanings that somehow seem apropos for the former mayor. Apparently roger was a slang term for penis and could also refer to having sex in an especially rough manner. Kind of fitting. I actually voted for the guy. I guess I got rogered along with everyone else.

Now THAT is hilarious.....all of it. That Jeremy dude gets around, no? Wonder what his beef was here - Rog hedging on his cockfight bets? Thanks for the entertaining info.

reply to Duhbya Actually, it was sarcasm, at least the Ron Jeremy part. I was banking on at least one person here knowing that Jeremy's nickname is/was the Hedgehog, for reasons that would be obvious to someone who knows about him

Oops. Well, I know who he is, but I draw the line at keeping track of his "stage" names. It was still good for a laugh, though.

Duhbya: Even if Hedgecock changed his name to Hotchkiss, there would be howls. Best, Don Bauder

Ethics? For ambulance-chaser types? Hahahaha

Twister: The practice of ambulance chasing is not confined to the legal profession. Best, Don Bauder

"Investigation" isn't the word for it. "Gossip-mongering" would be more like it.

Twister:" Gossip-mongering" is one way to put it. Another is "justice tampering." Best, Don Bauder

What we have here is a failure to practice intellectual discipline--to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!

Twister: Who wants to tell the whole truth when cozying up to the big money is so much more remunerative? Best, Don Bauder

Twister: How are your kneecaps feeling today? Best, Don Bauder

Hey, that's why I usa handle insteada my name. But this seedy motel is a gettin' ona m' nerves . . .

Twister: They will find you. They have government bodies on their side. Best, Don Bauder

Today's Neal Obermeyer cartoon is a good take on things. I agree wholeheartedly with the cartoon but of course Don feel free to rebut.

BTW, Don, which one of the 3 guys in the cartoon is supposed to be you?

dwbat: See response above. Best, Don Bauder

ImJustABill: I haven't seen Obermeyer's cartoon. I have no idea if I am supposed to be one of the three guys in the cartoon. I do have great admiration for Neal Obermeyer's cartoons. In fact, week after week, I think he hits the nail on the head. Best, Don Bauder

ImJustABill: Just checked Obermeyer's cartoon. Loved it. I don't know if I am in it. But it goes to prove once again that the Reader is the only publication in San Diego that is giving both sides of this story. Best, Don Bauder

Yeah - The Reader and to some extent VOSD are really the only investigative news sources in SD.

ImJustABill: VOSD occasionally does some worthwhile things. I don't know what it is doing with the Filner story. Best, Don Bauder

I have friends who like Voice, so I have tried to read it a few times. I think they could do with a better Web design. It is not the best-laid out site I have ever seen. But I've seen worse, too.

Yankeedoodle: I am not savvy enough to comment on Voice's web design. Best, Don Bauder

Don: I find it counterintuitive to navigate. That is generally a fault in design, because good design is user-friendly to a wide range of people. I was not making an artistic point. Wasn't looking for anything fancy.

Don, on Sunday Professor Diane Winston of the USC Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism published an Opinion in the L.A. Times on “Pope Francis’ woman problem” where she documented some problems that women have relative to the church, but I submit that these problems actually go far beyond religion into worldwide social and cultural practices.

I expand the application of what she said to generalize that far too many women in America and around the world are “neglected, disenfranchised and marginalized” enabling “sexism, misogyny and exploitation” resulting in “global reverberations in unwanted pregnancies, female poverty and sexual slavery.”

This is the reality of what we are dealing with today, and Mayor Filner is just one more example of our never-ending cultural failure, in a male dominated world, to protect and respect women’s rights. We must not allow this to continue or our legacy to our newest and future generations shall be totally unacceptable.

Anon92107: I agree with what the Pope said. I do not think his church puts his thoughts into practice. I know I am being called a sexist, MCP, etc. because I am standing up for due process. People do not read carefully, and I know that. They pay no attention to my stern criticism of Filner's behavior. They think because I am not calling for Filner's immediate resignation, I am against womens' rights.Totally illogical. But that's how this business goes. Best, Don Bauder

Using an incident to prove a general case is suspect, using a general case to prove an incident is flat wrong. Bob Filner deserves a fair hearing. Filner fought all his career for women's rights, and if the cabal that seeks to depose him wins, his crew of mostly women will be fired and replaced by fat old men. Let these women tell their story before we fire them.

Psycholizard: This is one thing that few are mentioning: Filner fought all his career for women's rights, gay rights, minority rights -- the rights of the disenfranchised. This does not excuse his boorish behavior. Best, Don Bauder

I don't KNOW how boorish Filner is, but but even if he is a jerk, he deserves his day in court. He is not likely to get it, but even if he does, watch which judge is picked. This case illustrates how powerful the media and the good 'ol boy/girl system are. Hip, hip, HOORAY for the Reader.

Re: Don Bauder Aug. 7, 2013 @ 6:02 p.m.

PS: Will somebody send me a link to the cartoon?

I know one of the women, and she's a snake.

Fascinating. Do tell how the military victims of rape fit in to this picture. Or the most progressive newspaper in the city. Or nearly the entire Democratic leadership. Or the injured Marine and her nurse. Or the progressive ex-head of communications.

Randy: See reply to Twister below. Wake up. Best, Don Bauder

The suggestion, as has been made, that one shouldn't ask victims of rape for dates because rape has damaged them, is wrong and offensive. There is no sex in this sex scandal. Make an argument, don't just list people who agree with you. You can fool all of the people some of the time, that time is now.

Psycholizard: Yes, thus far this is a sexless sex scandal. Best, Don Bauder

Twister: Of course he deserves his day in court. That's what this is all about.

But there is also something more sinister that this is about. The attempt to involve all these government agencies -- US Attorney, AG, City Attorney, Sheriff's office -- is basically a ganging-up to force Filner to resign.

The US Attorney or AG will cook up some dubious charges, Filner's lawyer will tell him how much it will cost to defend himself, the government agency will say it will drop the matter if he resigns.

He will have to resign or be wiped out financially.

The real estate development industry and corporate welfare crowd, which have these government agencies in their pockets, will be back in charge of San Diego.

To those San Diegans who haven't figured this out: wake up. Best, Don Bauder

To be specific, it's the California AG's office, not the U.S. AG, getting involved. And remember, California AG Kamala Harris is a Democrat. So no GOP fatcat conspiracy there. Also, she is highly unlikely to "cook up some dubious charges." That's a total insult to her integrity and professionalism. Where's your proof that state AG Harris is owned by the "real estate development industry and corporate welfare crowd," Don? That's a serious charge you need to back up with evidence, or retract your statement.

dwbat: Everybody is in on it. Everybody. Especially you and me, but also everybody. Shhhh. They're listening.

Randy: Since about 75% of the public wants Filner to resign, and only a handful of journalists, all on the Reader as far as I know, stand up for due process and see politics as usual behind the lynching, we are hardly a threatening cabal. You and dwbat will be on the side that prevails; I've already said that. Best, Don Bauder

Yes, Tinkerbell and Ronald McDonald are heavily involved, as are the Olson twins. Foghorn Leghorn denies any involvement, however. I'm not sure about Pee Wee Herman, though.

dwbat: Sorry, no retraction. It was representatives of the AG's office at that meeting, not Harris. I have had serious questions about the local AG office before. I will wait to see if it does pull out a dusty old statute to pursue this. Best, Don Bauder

dwbat: Specifically, it was the local AG's office that came to the aid of Mayor Sanders in the first Sunroad scandal. Sunroad had supplied money to Sanders so he had tried to help the company on the building that it had built that was too high for both federal and state standards. It was near Montgomery Field and posed a safety threat. When Mike Aguirre tried to do something, the AG backed Sanders. Best, Don Bauder

I KNOW that Harris wasn't there. I never said she was. But she's the boss of the asst. AGs. And be assured she is getting complete reports from her staff.

Twister, add 1: Today (Aug. 9) it has come out that Filner has hired a criminal lawyer. This is supposedly over the deal with either Sunroad, which was stupid but hardly criminal, or the deal with Centrepoint, in which Filner did what the law requires -- the same as Papa Doug Manchester's company did in Austin. If the U.S. Attorney/FBI pursues one or both of these matters, it is absolute proof that this is a setup to force him to resign, because he won't have the money to defend himself. Best, Don Bauder

Don: Well, of course there are many conservative Dems in the convocation to convict by press and public performance. One wonders if they fancy themselves pragmatic, when in fact lack of perspective is foremost in their behavior.

Yankeedoodle: It's my understanding that Mike Pallamary, one of the persons trying to lead the recall, has bragged that in a prior recall, his co-conspirators needed a lynch mob and got one. Then the hanging took place. Big boast. Best, Don Bauder

Yankeedoodle: The conservative Dems like Gloria and Fletcher want to be mayor. Remember: when a politician feigns piety, he or she is usually doing so for self-aggrandizement. Best, Don Bauder

Those who cannot afford a lawyer can request a public defender.

Behavior that offends is offensive behavior, I'll take their word for it, Filner takes their word for it. But the behavior reported was not intended to offend, it wasn't malicious. Asking women for dates over many years, may have offended some, and the technique might be poor, but that's what we call being a single male. Many men just ask women to go home with them in the clubs I frequent. Online, many just hook up with people they don't know, and sometimes don't want to know. There's some very cute baby pictures from one such hook up, no I won't link.

Psycholizard: In San Diego, at least, the resolution of this matter may change dating patterns permanently. Think of all the men and women sitting alone every evening, because both are afraid to come forward and ask for a date.

For the maudlin on this blog, I am only kidding. Best, Don Bauder

Don and PL: worry not, Internet dating lives!

If you need to learn how to do it, the latest Filner "victim" is ready to help (personal consult at a hefty price, but her blog is free). Eldonna (I feel like a first-name basis is appropriate after reading her advice column), an experienced Internet dater, explains the pitfalls. On July 2, 2013, she added a comment on a very old (2011) War on Terror blog about Nigerian scams in military dating; she posted a comment linking to her 2011 blog.

So, prior to appearing on CNN as the latest Filner victim, Eldonna was searching the Internet looking for places to repost her old online self-promotions. What a coincidence that she's going to be releasing a book soon, on empowerment. How serendipitous that she looked in the "trash" on her cell phone and found the old Filner voicemail so that she could get on CNN, prior to her book release. My advice to Eldonna: don't give your cell number to men whom you don't want calling you.

Here's the comment Eldonna posted July 2, 2013 (must read: her promotional blog link - it explains everything you might need to know...about her):

Eldonna Lewis Fernandez said... I have been contacted by hundreds of romance scammers on Facebook. I've had the high ranking military profiles as well. I had to laugh, the profile said the guy was a graduate of Westpoint and an Army General but the profile had an Air Force Colonel's photo. Here is a blog post I wrote about romance scams in general with many examples of the text. Apparently I have kept severl women from getting taken in by these scams. http://imagepower.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/romance-scams-expand-your-knowledge/

BlueSouthPark: I've heard about her complaint but not looked into it. It is inevitable that self-promoters will show up claiming to be victims. Best, Don Bauder

Many of these women cannot sue due to statutes of limitations and other factors. They will (and have) get viciously smeared online. Their names will be ever-connected to a sleazy scandal.

Randy: The sleazy scandal is the Salem witch burning...the Oxbow Incident. Best, Don Bauder

Don, if investigative reporters had always defended women's rights as vociferously and tenaciously as you defend Filner, this may never have happened.

Reporters in Washington always look the other way because sexual assault by male politicians is traditional, so Filner just joined the crowd.

You have accused the Mayor of rape, and all male politicians of joining in. Mr. Bauder is accused of acting as lookout. I nominate you for the hysterical overreach prize on this blog. This type of rape cry does not further the cause of woman's rights. None of Bob Filner's critics, and few anywhere, have worked as hard and effectively for woman's rights.

Psycholizard: You are right, but rational thinking does not exist in this environment. Hardly anybody is coming out for Filner. They are afraid to do so. They might get branded permanently. Best, Don Bauder

Psycholizard: They don't care. They care that the mayor's office is within reach. That is all. Anything rather than have it go to trial. Perhaps Don is correct, that he will not have the money to defend. We shall see. The gloating and baiting are ferocious. And yet, I hope he fights, if possible. The poor have no champion, otherwise.

Anon92107: I am not defending Filner's behavior -- vociferously, tenaciously, in the slightest bit. His behavior is reprehensible and I have said that from the beginning -- as has he. I am standing up for due process, and I am also pointing out to people that this is a typical pre-planned political smear that involves not only his political opponents, but some in government agencies. It's an orchestrated tsunami. Filner almost certainly won't survive, and the city will be back in the hands of the corporate welfare crowd that lost the last election. Best, Don Bauder

Don, where's the proof on the pre-planning? You never come up with any. You just keep repeating this over and over, thinking that your saying so means it must be true. My brother does the same thing online, so I recognized this tactic immediately. This goes against the grain of proper reporting. When you make your comments, you sound like a highly-opinionated, angry, and quite unhappy, print-media Keith Olbermann. For starters, try switching to decaf! Then pop into a Jacuzzi, relax and calm down. ;-)

The recall has been in the works for months, the coordinated resistance to Filner started on day one. I think the sex scandal is pure opportunism, but Bonnie Dumanis certainly worked to get law enforcement together before the scandal broke. The recall obviously is a punishment looking for a crime. Since they couldn't find crime, they get some women to call him a weirdo, after advertising on all channels for accusers, Do you think these women all came forward spontaneously, without active cooperation from media and law enforcement? There is pre planning, we can argue who, when, where, etc.. but it did happen.

dwbat: And I suggest you start taking tranquilizers. I also suggest you start reading up on political lynchings, and how they come about. (P.S. I don't drink coffee.) Best, Don Bauder

I don't need tranquilizers. I'm not suffering from any stress. I prefer to remain coolly logical.

Don, I must admit that I have found it most interesting that Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi et al. jumped on the Filner Resignation Bandwagon, but totally failed to demand Clinton's resignation after his sexual crimes against a mentally challenged intern. Women like these are as guilty of failure to protect women's rights as anyone.

Have a nice day.

Anon92107: That's my opinion of most of the 14 women who have come forward, often at Allred's bidding. Where we they years ago, when they claim the offenses took place? Best, Don Bauder

Don, I remember Pogo's declaration during the first Earth Day when he said something like "We have met the enemy and he is us!"

Along that same line, there appears to be an increasing realization that when it comes to achieving women's rights, women are their own worst enemy.

Sandy Banks wrote a very interesting column in the L.A. Times this morning "What took them so long to speak out about Filner?" Her conclusion was "we shall overcome only when women are willing to speak up."

This is way much bigger than Filner.

response to anon92107, "failed to demand Clinton's resignation after his sexual crimes against a mentally challenged intern." SERIOUSLY??? you're referring to Monica Lewinsky as a "mentally challenged intern" I say again SERIOUSLY? Ok, she didn't display a lot of common sense. She was obviously starstuck and let her self be taken advantage of by someone in a position of power. Wasn't the first time and won't be the last. However, she graduated from college with a degree in psychology. No it wasn't Brown or Berkeley or UCLA, it was "only" Lewis & Clark College, which happens to rank higher than SDSU, just below USD and not to far below UCSD. And oh yeah, I almost forgot, she also has a MS in social psychology from the London School of Economics. Now I'm no expert, having only a Master's from USD, but I seem to recall that the London School of Economics is a pretty good school. And yet here you are calling her a mentally challenged intern. You have absolutely no class,especially when it comes to women and need to crawl back under your rock.

Behavior that offends is offensive behavior and must stop. Filner has confessed to this, no one defends that behavior. But the accused behavior is not crime, not even a good civil case, and not intended to harm. He is alleged to breach decorum only, in all cases but one. Basically he's accused of being a creepy weirdo, but that's subjective and not a crime. One woman's creepy weirdo is another's lover. If someone wants to remove the Mayor for political reasons, that's within ethical and legal boundaries, but the rape cry is an atrocity, against the Mayor, and against real rape victims. Those with strong arguments don't need to exaggerate. http://www.kpbs.org/audioclips/19143/#transcript

Psycholizard: I think some of Filner's behavior arises from the fact that he was a nerd growing up. Best, Don Bauder

The San Diego County Grand Jury has received a request for the issuance of an accusation against Filner, for malfeasance of office. Read it here: http://voiceofsandiego.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/grand-jury-accusation-packet_Redacted.pdf

Same old bunk that wasn't working before the sexless sex scandal. Certainly we want a thorough investigation of Sunroad though, and an examination of all their donations to City officials.

Psycholizard: I didn't see anything new, but I only skimmed it. Best, Don Bauder

dwbat: Add one more entity to the bandwagon. Who is the accuser? It is blacked out. Best, Don Bauder

A nice-looking grown woman, young enough to be my daughter, with whom I had talked for several months at a cafe, recently asked me if I would like to f)(k. She had grown tired of waiting for me to ask. The younger generations do not share our "senior" standards--this is not uncommon. Who is to say what is "proper" in any given circumstance? Context is everything.

Asking is one thing. Touching, uninvited, is another. Anybody with any sense should be able to tell with a look. But some (most, all?) women like to flirt and tease. Is that sexual harassment? Is it improper? "Would I be misreading you if I said that I thought that our attraction was mutual?" Would that be impolite? A simple yes or no should suffice. Even "Buzz off, you jerk!" or some other emphatic response would also get the point across. But leading some jerk on for other purposes and then turning on him later when you're through with him or her, common though the practice may be, is simply bad form, at best.

For grown men and women, the conversation can be to the point, honest and frank. Touching could be considered assault, and any grown man should know better than to do it uninvited or without permission. But the time to complain is immediately, not when it suits another purpose. Of course there are exceptional cases; that's why gossip is such a vicious habit. Why "come forward" long after the "crime," when the evidence trail is cold. Scream! Pow! Right in the kisser of the kisser. Call the cops. Credibility becomes increasingly incredulous (and incredible) with the passage of time.

Twister: I agree that since touching is a no-no, the time for either a woman or man to complain is right away. Best, Don Bauder

I guess Filner is finished. But why no specifics, Marty? Caved in to political expediency?

I'd rather see Filner go down fighting. It's the PRINCIPLE of the thing, Bob.

Twister: Due process must go forward, so we can get some answers to very important questions -- like who is the puppet master in this. Best, Don Bauder

Due process was slowed down a bit by Filner, when he ducked the deposition he was supposed to attend.

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